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 Debate: Is Berri and Aoyama really mary sues?

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Is Berri and Aoyama really mary sues?   Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:17 pm

Hmm looks like I'm going to end up over analyzing everything when I reread the series.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Is Berri and Aoyama really mary sues?   Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:44 pm

Same here. Oh well. It's always good to look at something from a different angle. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Is Berri and Aoyama really mary sues?   Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:20 pm

Thirded. I'm going to reread the original manga as well. I've only read it a couple times, but I should've noticed the balcony thing that Blü mentioned in her last post. Usually I'm more observant than that. ^_^"

Regarding Berri, I finished reading the last of the sequel yesterday before work. I'm actually a little indifferent towards her situation as a 'canon sue', because as Mikamei already mentioned, it was a bit of a set-up caused by the same people that didn't want Ichigo-focus. She has her flaws, but I'm not yet enamored with the character. I would've liked to see more on Tasuku, though. He was shown to be obviously under the influence of others, but he only got a few panels on that point. It was a bit underwhelming for me.

Back on Berri, though, she does have more flaws than she does perks when you look at her. The problem with A La Mode, though, is that it has identical issues to the original - things weren't fleshed out.
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PostSubject: Re: Debate: Is Berri and Aoyama really mary sues?   Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:41 pm

In my honest opinion Masaya is not a Gary Stu (Male version of Mary Sue) because he has his flaws and it's like everyone says the reason why Masaya is mention to be perfect is because it is told from Ichigo's Point of view instead of Masaya's Point of View. Not to mention that Masaya is forced to be someone who he's not which makes things very difficult for him. So to me Masaya is just like any other person and that he is not perfect either. 

Now as for Berry I'm going to have to say that she is kinda of a Mary Sue because she has two different Animal D.N.A in her while the other Mew Mews only have one. The part about her being leader of the Mew Mews didn't make any sense to me because Ichigo has always been the leader and to make Berry the new leader it just seems so out of place. It would have been fine if Berry had only one Animal D.N.A in her and that she is just a member of the Mew Mews instead of being the leader. I know that Berry has some flaws, but I just can't get over the fact that she has two Animal D.N.A in her which to me is very strange since the other girls don't have two Animal D.N.A in them. The good thing about Berry is that at least she is a very kind person and she cares about her friends too. So I can't really hate her since she doesn't have a horrible personality, but it would have been better if she wasn't the leader of the Mew Mews though.
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